Rick
Sanchez Interviews James Ronald Whitney, Director of "Telling
Nicholas"
Sanchez:
Let's head to our next story for this segment. This is an interesting
story, September 11, a range of emotions for all Americans, from hard
ache, to sorrow, to anger, to hate. There's a new documentary out,
it's called "Telling Nicholas". It premiers at 10pm eastern
tonight on HBO. It follows the lives of two families who experienced
all of those after a losing a loved one during the attack. Filmmaker
James Ronald Whitney lives blocks from ground zero. He actually was
able to shoot the footage! At at it was happening and you can imagine
what his experiences are. I look forward to watching this tonight.
James why is it called "Telling Nicholas"?
Whitney:
Well Nicholas is a seven-year-old boy, whose mother was killed in
the attack and it took his father ten days to ultimately tell his
son that mommy is dead, and not coming home, and that certainly
is the core of the movie.
Sanchez:
How'd you find that family?
Whitney:
It was one of the thousands of missing fliers that had been posted
all across Manhattan.
Sanchez:
Oh I remember those when I was covering this story that I would
be in that area and I would look at all these faces of all these
people put on these walls and people would walk by and suddenly
they'd recognize somebody and they would start crying. I mean that
was the scene there everyday in lower Manhattan. It was incredible.
And you live there.
Whitney:
Yea, and I had no phone service and had been evacuated from my loft,
so I was wandering around looking at those flyers to see if there
were any people I knew, because I also work on Wall Street. And
the first flier I saw that pictured a mother with her child, was
that of Nicholas and his mom. It just hit me very hard and I took
down the name and number and the real impetus for contacting the
family was to provide them with some child crisis information that
was being set up like www.childtrauma.org. I work with a lot of
child advocacy agencies and I wanted to give them some of the hotline
numbers and just try to help--if there was anyway to help.
Sanchez:
I think we have a clip of your documentary so lets go ahead lets
go ahead and take that now so viewers at home could some of it.
[Clip #1 shown. ]
Whitney says, "I got down to the street and I ran as fast as
I could from the debris cloud that was right behind me. I was suddenly
without a home, water, electricity, gas, phone, and I didn't care
because I was certain that some of the people in the trade center
were people I knew".
Sanchez:
This is a first person thing isn't James? This is this is your story
and I understand you were sitting there recording and you recorded
some awful things some things that you know its early in the morning
its Sunday, people are going to be able to see that tonight on your
documentary were not showing now. You experienced it first hand.
Whitney:
Sure, I live on the top floor of a loft and I also have the roof
and the first plane flew right over my skylight, very low and very
loudly.
Sanchez:
You saw it?
Whitney:
That plane crashed into the first tower, and then I went upstairs
to the terrace and watched the second plane hit tower two. Then
I watched and filmed both of the towers collapsing, and more than
two dozen people jumping from the towers to their deaths. It's the
most horrifying thing I ever seen.
Sanchez:
I can only imagine. This is remarkable because it sounds like what
you've done James is you not only captured not only what happened
that day but you captured the feeling that last long after the event.
Whitney:
Well it's very simple to focus on the collapse of the towers and
the removal of the skyline, with which were all familiar.
Sanchez:
Yeah
Whitney:
but the important story to me was the collapse of these families
that were in crises and the removal of the infrastructures of their
families that once existed. This film chronicles ten days beginning
with the day of the attack--that's it--and it's very easy to watch
this and think, oh this is the end of the story. Well, this story
continues for all of these families. They're still coping. They're
still dealing with the aftermath of the destruction. Quite frankly,
days eleven through twenty were probably just as interesting in
some ways as days one through ten. "Telling Nicholas"
is a true tragic story, and the subjects are a real American family,
and for the first time people are going to get a glimpse of the
pain they've gone through. But it's also a story of survival. In
fact, at the end of the movie you hear Nicholas Lanza say the closing
words-"I love you mom."
Sanchez:
We've got one more clip we want to see. We want to look at this
more toward the end I'm told, let go ahead and take a look at that
this is you, this Nicholas pardon me as you had mentioned before
saying bye to his mother. Lets take a listen.
[Clip #2 is shown.]
Nicholas says, "I wish you could watch, me grow up. After the
memorial dad took me to the dollar store. And grandma and grandpa
walked home with my new friend, Thanbir, for cake and ice cream.
This is Nicholas Lanza signing off. I love you mom."
Sanchez:
Tough to watch.
Whitney:
It's important to know that Nicholas always wanted to be on TV.
He wanted to be a newscaster. The horrible thing here, is that he's
actually reporting the story of his mom's memorial. It's bittersweet
that this movie will air on Mother's Day, because its so much about
how this little boy was able to survive this tragedy and how the
father survived telling his son that his mommy is dead. And to answer
your initial question that's why the movie is called "Telling
Nicholas."
Sanchez:
That's a great story. Look forward to it. Tonight 10pm HBO. And
should be quiet a story a lot of people should see it. James thanks
for being here. Thanks for sharing that with us.
Whitney:
Thank you
'Telling Nicholas' is heart-wrenching
HBO tells true story of a boy who lost his mother Sept. 11
HOLLYWOOD, May 10 - Documentary filmmaker James
Ronald Whitney lived just below the World Trade Center when the
towers collapsed on Sept. 11, and he immediately grabbed his camera
and began taping. The shots of the buildings themselves, though,
are easily the least interesting thing about the superb "Telling
Nicholas," which, documenting a 10-day period after the attack,
starts out as the story of informing a 7-year-old his mother has
died but ends up depicting the near melt-down of a family.
A neighbor is watching the boy in order to keep him away from the
television, while Nicholas' father Robert, a soft-spoken Oklahoma
native, is struggling with how to tell his son the circumstances.
IT'S A HEART-WRENCHING film, genuinely deep in its examination of
trauma, grief, and the fissures that divide a family that's not
as conventional as they initially appear.
While looking for pictures of people he knew at one of the big posting
sites for the missing, Whitney was immediately drawn to a photograph
of Michele Lanza and, sitting on her lap, her son Nicholas. Within
72 hours of the attack, Whitney went out to meet Michele's family
in Tottenville, at the outer reach of Staten Island.
The focus is at this point completely on Nicholas, an adorable,
blonde-haired kid who knows something has happened but isn't sure
what. A neighbor is watching the boy in order to keep him away from
the television, while Nicholas' father Robert, a soft-spoken Oklahoma
native, is struggling with how to tell his son the circumstances.
The rest of the family, Michele's mother, father and two sisters,
continue to harbor hope that Michele may still be alive, and they
play for Whitney the phone message she left for her younger sister
Cindy after the first plane hit but before the second.
Gradually, a clearer picture of the family emerges. Michele and
Robert were separated, with Robert living in Virginia. Her family
has, to be generous, mixed feelings towards Robert, whose financial
situation had lead to Michele's taking the job in Manhattan to begin
with, a job she didn't really want. The initial trauma of the event
gives way to anger, blame and guilt, with the most blatant victim
being Cindy, who falls into a catatonic state and needs to be treated
with anti-psychotic drugs. Michele's mother, Ethel, still working
hard to deny her daughter's death, is stressed to the limit caring
for Nicholas and Cindy's two children.
ANOTHER FAMILY, ANOTHER LOSS
Whitney brings in another family as well, the Ahmed family in Brooklyn,
devout Muslims. Shabbir Ahmed was a waiter at Windows on the World
and died in the attacks. His 16-year-old son Thanbir becomes an
eloquent voice in the film, and even develops a bond with Nicholas
when Whitney introduces the two.
Whitney is clearly not trying to be a detached observer here. In
addition to bringing Thanbir into the picture ã in part to blunt
the intensity of Michele's family's strong anti-Muslim feelings,
particularly from Ethel he also introduces the family to psychologist
Gilda Carle, whom the family trusts in part because they've seen
her on various television talk shows. Carle counsels the family,
with a particular focus on helping Robert deal with the inevitable,
informing Nicholas that his mother is dead.
While that event forms the climax of the film, Whitney has also
delved along the way into the forms of religious extremism at work
within this apparently all-American family. Michele's older sister,
who received a correspondence doctorate and lives with a plethora
of religious icons in the family basement, claims the attacks were
the culmination of prophecy, while also blaming Robert's evangelical
apostolic faith, with a focus on female modesty, for oppressing
Michele.
From Aaron Davies' casual but polished cinematography to Mocean
Worker's sensitively mournful scoring, "Telling Nicholas"
is an expert work. Whitney's own first-person narration helps it
along, and the whole endeavor comes off as deeply felt and highly
personal, never the slightest bit sensational or exploitative, which
in lesser hands might have been a possibility.
Whitney does all he can to give it something of an upbeat ending,
and accomplishes that to a degree with Thanbir and Nicholas's help.
He also shows a statistic, that it is thought over 10,000 children
lost a parent on September 11th. The overall impact of the film
is devastating, and it clearly demonstrates that the residual effects
of that event continue to ripple not just outward, but inward too.
'Telling Nicholas' is heart-wrenching
HBO tells true story of a boy who lost his mother Sept. 11
HOLLYWOOD, May 10 - Documentary filmmaker James Ronald
Whitney lived just below the World Trade Center when the towers
collapsed on Sept. 11, and he immediately grabbed his camera and
began taping. The shots of the buildings themselves, though, are
easily the least interesting thing about the superb "Telling
Nicholas," which, documenting a 10-day period after the attack,
starts out as the story of informing a 7-year-old his mother has
died but ends up depicting the near melt-down of a family.
A neighbor is watching the boy in order to keep him away from the
television, while Nicholas' father Robert, a soft-spoken Oklahoma
native, is struggling with how to tell his son the circumstances.
IT'S A HEART-WRENCHING film, genuinely deep in its examination of
trauma, grief, and the fissures that divide a family that's not
as conventional as they initially appear.
While looking for pictures of people he knew at one of the big posting
sites for the missing, Whitney was immediately drawn to a photograph
of Michele Lanza and, sitting on her lap, her son Nicholas. Within
72 hours of the attack, Whitney went out to meet Michele's family
in Tottenville, at the outer reach of Staten Island.
The focus is at this point completely on Nicholas, an adorable,
blonde-haired kid who knows something has happened but isn't sure
what. A neighbor is watching the boy in order to keep him away from
the television, while Nicholas' father Robert, a soft-spoken Oklahoma
native, is struggling with how to tell his son the circumstances.
The rest of the family, Michele's mother, father and two sisters,
continue to harbor hope that Michele may still be alive, and they
play for Whitney the phone message she left for her younger sister
Cindy after the first plane hit but before the second.
Gradually, a clearer picture of the family emerges. Michele and
Robert were separated, with Robert living in Virginia. Her family
has, to be generous, mixed feelings towards Robert, whose financial
situation had lead to Michele's taking the job in Manhattan to begin
with, a job she didn't really want. The initial trauma of the event
gives way to anger, blame and guilt, with the most blatant victim
being Cindy, who falls into a catatonic state and needs to be treated
with anti-psychotic drugs. Michele's mother, Ethel, still working
hard to deny her daughter's death, is stressed to the limit caring
for Nicholas and Cindy's two children.
ANOTHER FAMILY, ANOTHER LOSS
Whitney brings in another family as well, the Ahmed family in Brooklyn,
devout Muslims. Shabbir Ahmed was a waiter at Windows on the World
and died in the attacks. His 16-year-old son Thanbir becomes an
eloquent voice in the film, and even develops a bond with Nicholas
when Whitney introduces the two.
Whitney is clearly not trying to be a detached observer here. In
addition to bringing Thanbir into the picture ã in part to blunt
the intensity of Michele's family's strong anti-Muslim feelings,
particularly from Ethel he also introduces the family to psychologist
Gilda Carle, whom the family trusts in part because they've seen
her on various television talk shows. Carle counsels the family,
with a particular focus on helping Robert deal with the inevitable,
informing Nicholas that his mother is dead.
While that event forms the climax of the film, Whitney has also
delved along the way into the forms of religious extremism at work
within this apparently all-American family. Michele's older sister,
who received a correspondence doctorate and lives with a plethora
of religious icons in the family basement, claims the attacks were
the culmination of prophecy, while also blaming Robert's evangelical
apostolic faith, with a focus on female modesty, for oppressing
Michele.
From Aaron Davies' casual but polished cinematography to Mocean
Worker's sensitively mournful scoring, "Telling Nicholas"
is an expert work. Whitney's own first-person narration helps it
along, and the whole endeavor comes off as deeply felt and highly
personal, never the slightest bit sensational or exploitative, which
in lesser hands might have been a possibility.
Whitney does all he can to give it something of an upbeat ending,
and accomplishes that to a degree with Thanbir and Nicholas's help.
He also shows a statistic, that it is thought over 10,000 children
lost a parent on September 11th. The overall impact of the film
is devastating, and it clearly demonstrates that the residual effects
of that event continue to ripple not just outward, but inward too.
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